Physicists extend entanglement in Einstein experiment December 6,
2012 by Lisa Zyga feature Physicists extend entanglement in Einstein
experiment Enlarge To verify entanglement among the three photons, the
physicists measured the times that the photons arrived at a detector.
This 2D histogram shows that groups of three photons are all localized
to a small region, indicating strong correlations in the arrival times
of the three photons. Image credit: L. K. Shalm, et al. ©2012 Macmillan
Publishers Limited (Phys.org)—Using a photon fission process,
physicists have split a single photon into a pair of daughter photons
and then split one of the daughter photons into a pair of
granddaughters to create a total of three photons. All three photons,
the scientists showed, share quantum correlations between their
energies (corresponding to their momentums) and between their emission
times (corresponding to their positions). The study marks the first
experimental demonstration of energy-time entanglement of three or more
individual particles, building on the original two-particle version
proposed by Einstein, Podolsky, and Rosen (EPR) 77 years ago. Ads by
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Change the Energy Conversation - RationalMiddle.com The physicists,
from the University of Waterloo and the University of Calgary, have
published their paper on three-photon energy-time entanglement in a
recent issue of Nature Physics. As the physicists explain, this new
form of entanglement is the three-photon version of the famous EPR
correlations for continuous variables (e.g., position and momentum)
between two particles. The EPR thought experiment, published in 1935,
raised questions about the fundamental concepts underlying the young
theory of quantum mechanics. "The Heisenberg uncertainty principle
forbids one from simultaneously discovering both the position and
momentum of a particle with arbitrary accuracy," lead author Krister
Shalm of the University of Waterloo told Phys.org. "EPR pointed out
that, if you create a pair of entangled particles, it is possible to
measure both the position and momentum of both of them with arbitrary
precision. It is still impossible to learn both the position and
momentum of each of the individual particles, but, instead, we can
learn information about the total position and momentum they share.
Entangled particles, in some sense, are the ultimate team players. They
lose their own individual identity with all the information in the
system contained in the correlations." In the original experiment, EPR
tried to demonstrate that the correlations between two particles were
so strong that there must be some hidden parameter to explain them that
quantum mechanics does not account for. This conclusion seemed to
uncover some inadequacies in quantum mechanics. "The original
arguments made by EPR in 1935 were designed to show that quantum
mechanics, by itself, is not sufficient to describe reality," Shalm
said. "This inspired John Bell, who showed that if you take the
arguments of EPR that relied on hidden variables to their logical
conclusions, you arrive at a contradiction with quantum mechanics. Since
then, much work has been devoted to using Bell's work to test quantum
mechanics, and extensions of the work have profoundly shaped our
understanding of the quantum world." Ads by Google Fun Schrodinger's
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several decades, physicists have demonstrated many different types of
entanglement, which are defined by the number and type of objects that
are entangled and the properties of the objects that are entangled.
These properties can fit into one of two categories: discrete or
continuous, which describe the variable's domain. For example, spin is a
discrete variable since its value can only be an integer or
half-integer, while emission time is continuous. Entanglement has
previously been demonstrated between the discrete variables of 14 ions
and the continuous variables of three light beams, but until now
entanglement among the continuous properties of three individual
particles has remained an open challenge. "What is exciting about our
work is that we can take the original arguments made by EPR for two
particles and extend them to three particles," Shalm said. "The kind of
entanglement that EPR first proposed pertained to continuous
variables, like position and momentum, as opposed to discrete
variables, like polarization or spin. Discrete variables in photons
have traditionally been easier to manipulate. With our system we
finally have a viable way to explore the entanglement of continuous
variables between three particles." To achieve continuous-variable
entanglement among three photons, the physicists split a photon into a
pair of daughters using a process called cascaded spontaneous
parametric downconversion. Since energy is conserved, each daughter
photon has a frequency that is roughly half that of the pump photon.
When one of the daughter photons is split, the two granddaughter
photons each have a frequency that is about half that of the daughter
photons. Although the frequency of each individual photon may vary
slightly from exact halving, the total energy of the three photons
combined is exactly equal to the energy of the pump photon. In
addition, because the splitting process is instantaneous, the three
photons must arrive at photon detectors at the same time. Under these
production conditions, the three photons share strong spectral
correlations and, in theory, possess genuine tripartite energy-time
entanglement. This means that the energy values and the emission times
of the three photons share correlations that are stronger than those
allowed by classical physics. To verify that the three photons possess
energy-time entanglement, the physicists had to confirm that the three
photons violate a set of inequalities that are an extension of the EPR
arguments for two particles. These tests require measuring and
comparing the arrival times of the three photons at a single-photon
detector. One way to do this is to directly measure each photon's
frequency; however, current technology doesn't provide sufficient
precision for direct frequency measurements. Instead, the scientists
measured the frequency of the pump photon and ensured that energy was
conserved in the downconversion process. They also used detectors to
measure the arrival times of the photons, but noted that the detectors
have a timing jitter of several hundred picoseconds that limited the
precision. Even accounting for this uncertainty, the results showed
that the three photons do indeed violate the EPR inequalities and are
therefore energy-time entangled. Future improvements in detector
precision would provide improvements in the measured values of the
inequalities by over two orders of magnitude. In addition, new
technologies to enhance the observed effects could potentially allow
this scheme to be scaled up to larger photon numbers. In terms of
applications, this entanglement scheme could be useful in quantum
communications because it provides the opportunity to entangle multiple
degrees of freedom, generating "hyper-entanglement." If one of the
entangled photons could be interfaced with an atomic storage medium
while the other two photons are transmitted over telecom fibers to
remote quantum nodes, then scientists could create new possibilities for
storing and distributing quantum information. Other modifications of
the scheme could lead to new fundamental tests of quantum mechanics.
"Three particle states that are entangled in their continuous degrees of
freedom may allow for a new class of tests for quantum mechanics that
could further our understanding of quantum theory and entanglement,"
Shalm said. "This is also an important technological step. It is a
system that lets us exploit optical nonlinearities at the single-photon
level. This may have important applications in creating the gates
needed in a quantum computer, or in distributing quantum information
over a network." In the future, the scientists plan to try to combine
the position and momentum entanglement among the three photons with
more traditional types of entanglement based on angular momentum and
polarization. This kind of combined entanglement could lead to the
creation of hybrid quantum systems that possess multiple unique
properties of light at the same time. Journal reference: Nature
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page 1 / 2 Lurker2358 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.3 / 5 (13) Events which
have a common cause or origin are automatically entangled in at least
some way. This is not even "entanglement". This is just addition, I
think. A plus B equals C B plus A equals C. If C is constant then A
and B are mutually determined, by the Commutative property. It works
for multiplications too, so halving frequencies and finding that they
are in fact halved is just confirming the Commutative property of
addition and/or multiplication, and is not necessarily "entanglement"
at all, even if it is entanglement, it is a logical entanglement,
rather than a physical entanglement. report eloheim Dec 06, 2012
Rank: 3.9 / 5 (10) Please wiki "Entanglement" and "Bell's Inequality"
and the article will make more sense. "Even accounting for this
uncertainty, the results showed that the three photons do indeed
violate the EPR inequalities and are therefore energy-time entangled."
This means that doing something to one of the photons has an *instant*
effect on the other two. It's almost like the photon's a "hole" in
reality, with the far-off location of the other particle(s) immediately
on the other side. Somehow those two spots are right next to each
other, touching, even though there's nothing in between. I've also
found one thing that always gets left out when trying to impress the
significance of this process is exactly what "instant" means in context
of the finite speed of light. report Lurker2358 Dec 06, 2012
Rank: 1.3 / 5 (12) elcheim: The experiment they've described does not
exhibit that "spooky action at a distance" behavior. The only thing it
does, as described, is divide a known quantity into two or more
quantities which sum back to the original value, and then measures
those values. report Noumenon Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3.7 / 5 (9)
@Lurker, If a particle's position is measured accurately, because of
the momentum-position uncertainty relation, ...that position state
represents a linear sum of many momentum basis states. The momentum is
unknown to the degree the position is determined. Likewise there is an
uncertainty relation between energy and time of the photon. Since
energy is conserved there must be a correlation between the times and
frequencies (energies). It is not like splitting up a coin, one heads
so the other must be tails. report antialias_physorg Dec 06, 2012
Rank: 5 / 5 (11) This means that doing something to one of the
photons has an *instant* effect on the other two. Not quite. If that
were the case you could transmit information that way (which you
can't). Only determining a property of one (forcing it into a choice of
one of its uncertain properties) will instantly tell you everything
about the property of the other. Subtle, but crucial. report
Lurker2358 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.5 / 5 (8) Not quite. If that were
the case you could transmit information that way (which you can't).
Only determining a property of one (forcing it into a choice of one of
its uncertain properties) will instantly tell you everything about the
property of the other. Subtle, but crucial. Temporal
entanglement implies that you somehow can transmit information via
entanglement, particularly since the "past" in the experiments is also
displaced in space by the distance the Earth moved during the allotted
time between the start of the experiment and the end. More than one
article has been written on here showing both temporal entanglement and
reverse causality were found via experiment in an Earth laboratory.
This requires information to move from particle B in the future at
position B' to particle A in the past at position A' without crossing
the space or time between them. Considering the Earth moves very fast
this would be a large distance. report Ray W Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1
/ 5 (1) A bit off topic, but reading this article brings a man in the
middle question to mind. Intercept a signal between Alice & Bob,
split the signal, store one while doubling the other and sending it on
to Alice or Bob. Monitor changes in your stored signal as the reciever
decodes the signal. Use this information to break the security between
Alice & Bob. The trick is doubling the signal without loosing the
original entanglement. report Lurker2358 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.7 /
5 (6) http://phys.org/n...tml#nRlv report Telekinetic Dec 06,
2012 Rank: 2.6 / 5 (15) "I've also found one thing that always gets
left out when trying to impress the significance of this process is
exactly what "instant" means in context of the finite speed of light." -
eloheim That is one of the most insightful statements I've read on this
forum. You're a thinker. report ROBERTOF Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 2 /
5 (4) No se trata de 3 partículas sino de una sola dividida en 3, así
que el principio de incertidumbre rige para el conjunto, no dentro de
él. Es como si la partícula original fuese el marco de referencia,
quedando la incertidumbre del lado externo de ese marco report
TheGhostofOtto1923 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 2.1 / 5 (11) means in
context of the finite speed of light." - eloheim That is one of the
most insightful statements I've read on this forum. You're a thinker.
-But not a very good one. "When a measurement is made and it causes
one member of such a pair to take on a definite value...the other
member of this entangled pair will at any subsequent time be found to
have taken the appropriately correlated value In Quantum entanglement,
part of the transfer happens INSTANTaneously..." -Instantaneously
indicates no delay in change of state whatsoever regardless of
separation distance. The speed of light indicates a delay proportionate
to the separation distance. Temporal entanglement implies that you
somehow can transmit information FAIL "...the steps required to
read out the teleported quantum state ensure that no information can be
communicated faster than the speed of light" -Again, and as always,
words are inadequate to describe these things. Thats why physicists use
numbers. report Telekinetic Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 2.6 / 5 (15) "But
the new experiment shows that direct communication between the photons
(at least as we know it) is simply impossible. The team simultaneously
measured several properties of both photons, such as phase, when they
arrived at their villages and found that they did indeed have a spooky
awareness of each other's behaviour. On the basis of their
measurements, the team concluded that if the photons had communicated,
they must have done so at least 100,000 times faster than the speed of
light — something nearly all physicists thought would be impossible. In
other words, these photons cannot know about each other through any
sort of normal exchange of information." Ghost, you really must stop
relying on Wikipedia for proof. They let anyone contribute erroneous
information. You better do your homework on entanglement. By the way,
are you "lite"? report TheGhostofOtto1923 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 2.7 /
5 (12) You did not represent the context of your reference honestly:
"The researchers found that when each photon reached its destination, it
could instantly sense its twin's behaviour without any direct
communication. The finding does not violate the laws of quantum
mechanics" "The experiment shows that in quantum mechanics at least,
some things transcend space-time, says Terence Rudolph, a theorist at
Imperial College London." -This is exactly what the wiki article says.
You should not reject wiki excerpts solely on the facts that you do
not understand them, nor fail to cross-check their veracity. And no I
am not lite. Lite frequently downrates me. I state this on my profile
page, as well as exposing at least one accuser for the lying stalking
dimwit that he is. report Noumenon Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3.5 / 5
(11) Either Ghost or FrankHerbert is lite. report
TheGhostofOtto1923 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.5 / 5 (8) Either Ghost or
FrankHerbert is lite. Hey nou do me the honor at least of responding
to my research on the specious nature of 'mind' and 'consciousness'.
http://medicalxpr...nal.html -You need to update your lexicon. And your
profile page. report Pressure2 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.8 / 5 (5)
This whole faster than light is nonsense, they are what they are
observed to be when measured from the moment they are created. They are
nothing more or less than a coin split in 1/2 and then 1/2 is split in
1/2 again. report Pressure2 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3 / 5 (6) There
is a very good chance the "Lite" a light weight coward loser and works
for Physorg and post under another username. report Pressure2 Dec
06, 2012 Rank: 2.6 / 5 (5) That's funny Lite, so I hit upon a nerve!
Careful coward you might expose yourself now. report
StarGazer2011 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 4 / 5 (4) This whole faster than
light is nonsense, they are what they are observed to be when measured
from the moment they are created. They are nothing more or less than a
coin split in 1/2 and then 1/2 is split in 1/2 again. This seems to
sum it up for me; can anyone explain why 'action at a distance' is
actually required to explain this correlation? And before someone
rattles on about 'uncertainty' be aware that argument is just putting
the cart before the horse; perhaps the existance of corellation between
quantum states (entanglement) is actually evidence that the copenhagen
interpretation is wrong and that the 'uncertainty' is an artifact of
interaction, not a property of the particles (or the universe)
themselves. I.e. that postiion and momentum are actually simultanously
defined as actual discrete concrete values but not simultaneously
measurable due to interaction at the moment of measurment. report
Estevan57 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3.7 / 5 (12) Either Ghost or
FrankHerbert is lite. Yup. Hit the nail on the head with that one.
Good call. report Lurker2358 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 1.8 / 5 (5)
Ghost: In the temporal entanglement experiment which was done in an
article on here a while back, if the entanglement is what it claims to
be, of which I'm not entirely sure, rather than a mere classical
causality correlation, then information absolutely must have been
communicated between the test object in the "future" set back to the
test object in the "past" set. Since the past position of the Earth was
very far away from the future position of the Earth, this information
must have made quite a decent sized trip instantaneously. The reason
is that the two events are otherwise unrelated except that they are
both part of the same experiment, and that the experiment is designed
to try and entangle the outcomes of events which happen at different
times. It appears to work regardless of the delay, even across several
days apparently. report Estevan57 Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3.4 / 5 (10)
I noticed that after this post lite (Otto) changed his profile to try
to confuse me with others. Hmmm Must have hit a nerve. Amazing how
similar the two profiles have become. report Telekinetic Dec 06,
2012 Rank: 2.5 / 5 (16) Send PM to this user PERSONAL INFORMATION First
Name: Last Name: Username: lite Member since: June 28, 2012, 7:07 am
PROFILE Q&A Birthday: Location: Affiliation: About yourself:
ScooterG = Estevan57 = obama_socks = PussyTard & coTards. Above is
the profile page of lite. The only poster that uses or has ever used
the term "pussytard" is GhostofOtto1923. Ladies and Gentlemen of the
jury... report Noumenon Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 3.7 / 5 (9) -You
need to update your lexicon. And your profile page. -ghostOtto / lite /
FH Why? report Telekinetic Dec 06, 2012 Rank: 2.5 / 5 (13)
"Bormann became more and more dominant in the Nazi Party to such an
extent that he seemingly controlled domestic legislation and
appointments and promotions within the party. With Hitler concentrating
his time on the war effort, Bormann was all but left clear to handle
domestic policy.In particular he tried to target the church in Nazi
Germany. Bormann simply believed that there was no place for a Christian
church in Germany and in 1942, he sent a confidential memo to all
Gauleiters that the power of the church "must absolutely and finally be
broken." And that, fellow commenters, is the origin of GhostofOtto's
anti-religious ravings. He sees himself as wearing the mantel of Martin
Borman et al. I'll bet he's got a nice little collection of S.S.
daggers. They're fakes, sucker. report pages: « prev12next »
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